We talk sporadically on social media, but when I pop by the new residence, I'm not entirely sure what to expect. That would be great if CSI used it, that would be fucking hilarious.I first meet Mac Miller in person just days after his rap career comes screaming back into gear with the announcement of a new album when he lets slip to me that he's moved to New York City. Exactly, like the opening scene, where they do the whole thing, where they’re dancing and then it’s like – If you have a really, really smart guy with sick humor, you could just put that to a CSI crime scene. Every time I see millions of plays and I see… I don’t have the “millions of plays”-house. It’s one of those things, we live in the… I call it the wild, wild west of the internet right now. I could only hope one day that I would make money off of it like that. Yeah, because I mean, when people that grow up with that, like in ten years or so, they’re going to be music supervisors on that TV show, blah, blah, blah, that ad agency. On a more upbeat note, that song could easily be your retirement fund, could it? But then I would hear it back, it almost would make me laugh a bit, because it was like “Yeeez.” You know? It’s like, “What the hell happened?” Because a lot of the time, I feel like the music is a bit of a document. Every time I hear that song, “Them Changes,” I think about writing it and how happy I was writing it, because of how I felt the music was coming out and then the lyrical content being from that same place where it was pretty dark. You just have to try to be in the moment and not drag all the other stuff or be too confident. You’re going to have to work at working at it with somebody else that may not want to work at it as much as you do. You know? Just because it doesn’t come to you immediately doesn’t mean that it won’t, because at the end of the day, when it does show up, you’re still going to have to work at it. The truth is, one thing I feel like I’ve learned playing the bass is that, the truth is, it’s hard work no matter what you want. I’d never lose genuine hope in the idea, because it’s hard work. It’s a messed-up dance, where it’s like one of your legs is short or something and… You keep bumping foreheads for no fucking reason. I mean, I find it sad, very much so, but… What can you do?Įven as friends, they don’t want to be with you, they still want to be your friend, but they want you to still… You have to draw the line somewhere, it’s up to you.

Oh, you get over it: “You don’t see it, if you don’t see it, I’m not going to try to make you see it.”

Record the vocals on the airplane toilet? Oh, are you saying I should fire up the Ableton while I’m on a 12-hour flight? Yeah, it’s usually when she had a moment of like, “Wow, I didn’t know that that was…” I was like, “Of course you didn’t,” you know? That’s why that song was written. I think you told me when you were… drunk. This is the person that I’d been with for a while. I had a moment with the person and… I don’t know if they had never been listening to my music.

Everybody heard this song and was like, “Whoa!” They could relate to that moment, because I think… It’s like you go through that moment, you just get just fucking ripped in half sometimes. It’s one of those things that’s like… Like you’re in love and love lost. The next song actually says the girl’s name. That one gets a bit more specific, obviously.

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